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		<title>By: Scott Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Kay :)

I think its a two prong effort. I think if the community gets out there and puts its heart and soul into the equation, it needs to be meet by Adobe in parrallel with equal amount of effort.

Just for the record, I am the devil :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Kay <img src='http://kay.smoljak.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think its a two prong effort. I think if the community gets out there and puts its heart and soul into the equation, it needs to be meet by Adobe in parrallel with equal amount of effort.</p>
<p>Just for the record, I am the devil <img src='http://kay.smoljak.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-<br />
Scott.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Corfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Corfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been saying the same thing for ages - CFers need to get out and interact with other communities and talk CF up. Instead they turn in on themselves and complain about how everyone picks on CF and how Adobe doesn&#039;t do enough and how all the other technologies are so much more popular. Boo hoo!

I was glad to see Jim pick up on the real meaning of Gary Barber&#039;s post - I suspect a lot of people stopped reading Gary&#039;s post before they got to that part (Mike Henke clearly did - although he later recanted).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been saying the same thing for ages &#8211; CFers need to get out and interact with other communities and talk CF up. Instead they turn in on themselves and complain about how everyone picks on CF and how Adobe doesn&#8217;t do enough and how all the other technologies are so much more popular. Boo hoo!</p>
<p>I was glad to see Jim pick up on the real meaning of Gary Barber&#8217;s post &#8211; I suspect a lot of people stopped reading Gary&#8217;s post before they got to that part (Mike Henke clearly did &#8211; although he later recanted).</p>
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		<title>By: Judd Exley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judd Exley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alrighty Kay, sit down, I&#039;m outing myself on your schmancy blog.

*deep breath*

I&#039;m Judd... and I&#039;m a ColdFusion developer.

There, I said it.  Heh, I&#039;m not really anymore, but I sure used to be back in the day.  It was the first language I learned, so therefore my favourite.  I&#039;m not even a developer any more, but I still have a soft spot in my heart for CF.

If it ain&#039;t dead though, it&#039;s certainly on life support, as when I migrated here a few years ago, there was nada for CF developers, now heist is trying to tell me that there&#039;s heaps of work.

Not sure about that, but good on ya for keepin&#039; it real yo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alrighty Kay, sit down, I&#8217;m outing myself on your schmancy blog.</p>
<p>*deep breath*</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Judd&#8230; and I&#8217;m a ColdFusion developer.</p>
<p>There, I said it.  Heh, I&#8217;m not really anymore, but I sure used to be back in the day.  It was the first language I learned, so therefore my favourite.  I&#8217;m not even a developer any more, but I still have a soft spot in my heart for CF.</p>
<p>If it ain&#8217;t dead though, it&#8217;s certainly on life support, as when I migrated here a few years ago, there was nada for CF developers, now heist is trying to tell me that there&#8217;s heaps of work.</p>
<p>Not sure about that, but good on ya for keepin&#8217; it real yo.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Swartzfager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Swartzfager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gary: I don&#039;t know if we have something similar to the WSG here in the United States, but I&#039;ll be keeping my eye out for something similar in my area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gary: I don&#8217;t know if we have something similar to the WSG here in the United States, but I&#8217;ll be keeping my eye out for something similar in my area.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Barber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 02:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brian ever considered taking the talks to groups other than CFUGs and talking about CF, AIR and Flex to say a Web Standards Group (which have all sort of topics) .

@Gary maybe Adobe is targeting the wrong group and should be looking at the front end devs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brian ever considered taking the talks to groups other than CFUGs and talking about CF, AIR and Flex to say a Web Standards Group (which have all sort of topics) .</p>
<p>@Gary maybe Adobe is targeting the wrong group and should be looking at the front end devs</p>
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