Comments on: ColdFusion 8 – what’s all the fuss about?

By: Charlie Arehart

Charlie Arehart — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:45:51 +0000

Shame to hear that you are no longer the “Reporting queen”, Kay. I was about to send someone to you who was looking for a talk on Reporting as of CF8, but when I saw this entry, I realized you may not want to take up such an offer. If you do, and have gotten back into it since when you wrote this in June, please do say so.

Or if not, can anyone recommend anyone else who’s big into the report builder? Even Dean’s blog (cfreport.org) has been silent since June, perhaps with the focus on getting 8 out the door. Anyone else?

By: Rey Bango

Rey Bango — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:31:09 +0000

“Hijax” really is the best way to develop any DOM/Ajax apps. It just ensures accessibility and functionality for your app. I believe since CF8’s Ajax functionality is fairly tag-intensive, that may have been the reason that incorporating some form of progressive enhancement wasn’t viable. I asked about dynamically binding events to DOM elements and was told it wasn’t doable. But since they’re using YUI & Ext, I’m fairly confident that with some work, it can be accomplished.

I also believe that CF8’s time constraints may have be a consideration when looking at allowing hijax-style development.

By: Dominic Manley

Dominic Manley — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:39:58 +0000

I don’t know much about CF but I feel the same way about Java interfaces. With one exception though: Adobe’s use of Eclipse as a Flex 2 IDE. I’ve been Flexing-it-up for a while now and while it’s true that Eclipse guzzles memory, I’ve found it to be a stable and invaluable tool (on a meaty system that can handle it). The debugger is particularly useful.

I don’t know how or how well Adobe’ll implement it for use with CF but they seem to be quite keen on Eclipse lately. It seems to be a key component for bringing together many of their different web techs.

It’s all very interesting over in the Adobe camp these days I think. With Apollo, Flex/Flash, CF, the whole design suite… they’ve got all angles of the industry nailed. Apollo in particular really excites me… on many levels that has the potential to take on .NET and Microsoft. Who are no doubt aware of this threat and have already responded with Silverligh? Can’t wait to see how it all unfolds over the next 5 years.

By: Gary Barber

Gary Barber — Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:19:53 +0000

I asked about the AJAX issue at WebDU, I got a very blank stare and few, “what is Progressive Enhancement?” looks. Senior people in Adobe telling me it was not possible to do this with Javascript. The usual sales brush off. Finally I get the truth outside in a one to one. No its not unobtrusive at all, especially the Dreamweaver ColdFusion 8 hooks. But it is very modularised so it can be “enhanced” I’m looking forward to ColdFusion 8 too, just need to find a host and a project to use it on.

By: Peter Tilbrook

Peter Tilbrook — Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:00:12 +0000

Yeah it is good. Awesome really. But still only Release Candidate so if you find any issues let Adobe know so they can be addressed.